Shananns behavior is not odd at all, in fact, its pretty much how people act when they no longer want to be with you. The cops never made her google searches public, but i am guessing she did a LOT of searches on her milquetoast co-workers, looking for just the right pigeon to pluck. This is a good thread! Yes, people were buying things they could afford, but this That doesnt make sense. Oh to be a remotely attractive straight white man. [quote]All i could think of while watching this video, is what was going thru the minds of financially strapped husbands watching their wives spend money they didn't have on these scams? I feel its a form of abuse to film and live broadcast your family at all times. "I'm worried about Shanann," she told Chris. I listened to the RedHanded podcast posted upthread. By "Her car is here but she's not at home. I think he did the world a favor by offing her. Shanann was going to become just like her mother and Chriss mother. R107, yup yup yup. Then he killed his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3 at his job site on an oil field. She alienated Chris from his friends. Geni requires JavaScript! Safe to say they were actually depending on Chris's 60k, which didn't cover their oversized suburban lifestyle. r162 I wanna see those pics of "Shannan" posing as a bitch-ho next to the souped up thug rods. Take a look at "ACTION TAKEN: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. John Forbes officiating. I'd consider being three months behind on her mortgage, a husband cheating on her, credit card debt in the tens of thousands at least, and being pregnant were a few of her bigger problems, r51. They all look like a ringing endorsement of health, R15. Shanann was 15 weeks pregnant at the time she was killed. Odd that when her marriage to King ran into trouble her behavior exactly mirrored that of Chris in the months before the murders: Not waning to engage in conversation, shutting down, withdrawing, physically distancing herself within the home, etc. Just like Shanann had her parents Sandra and Frank move in in 2015/2016 meanwhile while Shanann/Chris and Sandra/Frank file BK? Im sorry shes dead, but she was shady as fuck. The family of a pregnant Colorado woman who was murdered by her husband paid tribute to her and said she was 'born to be a mother' at her joint funeral with her two daughters and unborn son. To hide her, not to inter her. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. If so she more recently passed away as well at only 33 and leaving their 6 year old with neither mom or dad just tragic https://www.forbisanddick.com/obituaries/Arie-King/#!/Obituary. To me inside he was a volcano just waiting to erupt. I spoke with LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. She was a grifter with her buddy Hashem. But I do wish he had let them live, and just walked off with his truck driver girlfriend. Of course, I could make up a few believable stories about someone like this, too. her husband texted back in June when she sent him a photo of her ultrasound picture, according to a screengrab she posted on Facebook. That's twice a year every year for 10 years. Or was he completely oblivious and just filled with utter rage at Shannan and her doppelgnger kids dissing him? I can't imagine after bankruptcy etc. Nothing out of the box. At least the Watts kids had a good life while they had one. The discovery documents released by the Weld County District Attorney's office last week related to the murder investigation include an anecdote r22, I saw some special on tv about the murders, it mentioned medical bills for her. The Watts family murders occurred in Frederick, Colorado, United States, during the early morning hours of August 13, 2018. Her mother wasnt meddling in her business. However, anyone who devotes MONTHS to harping on how annoying a dead woman was when she was alive, has all the screws loose. Dont interrupt me. Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about their relationship) TV NEWS 1.38K subscribers Subscribe 44K views 3 years ago Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking. And she wasnt flipping. Im not saying she killed anyone, but I think she goaded him. The only people making money from LeVel are the owners and top tier people. Go back to your thoughts and prayers and handwringing over how things like this can happen, while never trying to actually make sense of it beyond coming to the conclusion of CRAZY. He was obviously still fucking his wife yet he was still a crazy horn dog. They were good marks, since they sold everything in 2015, quit their jobs, and moved in with Chris and Shanann for 15 months while Shanann was pregnant with CeCe, who was born July, 2015. I am curious why we never hear from any other women in Chris Watts past? Its something Borderlines do, although I dont think she was one. 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I wondered why, on the initial Officer Coonrod bodycam videos, there was no furniture in the dining room. Watts, 35, reportedly detailed the gruesome slaying of Shanann Watts in one of his prison letters - and he also revealed that he'd been thinking about killing her for "weeks." 15 Suffering. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. R154: why did Chris have her sell her house, drag her across the country, purchase a $400K house he could not afford in his name only, then murder her and their children? Chris clearly has the right to sue Le-Vel. Well, she shouldnt have . That doesn't mean that is what happened here, but it's not that cut & dry. Watts likely justified to himself (wrongly, of course) their murders based on this. I feel like I need to add something special to my name too. Just curious. Im male & a longtime DLer and you can MARY! me all you want to (Im sure I deserve it), but this confession is extremely emotionally upsetting to me to read. Interestingly, she (allegedly) dated Chris, and was supposed to tak about what he was like, but all she talked about was Shabann. This is the chilling final photo posted by a woman whose husband is accused of brutally murdering her and their two young daughters. It's very hard to lie your way through a mortgage loan process. He pleaded guilty that November to all three slayings. BABIES. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_family_murders, Shanann Cathryn Watts, (grave marker states Shanann Rzucek), 34 and daughters Bella Marie Watts, 4 and Celeste Cathryn Watts, 3 and unborn son Nico Lee of Frederick, Colorado, died on Thursday, August 16, 2018 (obituary states August 16th, graver marker reads August 13th). Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche], TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE Visit the post for more. R30, were you shilling that onesie on the old Topix forum? Oh yes. Thank you for posting it! Please enable JavaScript in your browser's settings to use this part of Geni. The discovery docs included an interview with the ex. I also find that interesting which seems to me she couldnt handle conflict either. And he knew that in her vindictiveness she would use the children as pawns and weapons. "Chris Watts Just Snapped" "Why wasn't Shan'ann's body dumped into the oil tanks as well?" #Shakedown's Call on the Chris Watts Case: The Bodies were "Processed" And she DID turn the kids against Chris. Nichol Kessinger and Chris Watts started speaking at work in June 2018, and by July 2018, the pair had started a romantic relationship. How did they qualify for such a large mortgage with the former bankruptcy etc. The amount received is based on the proportion each ex spouse earns, and the living arrangements for the children, and the poorer spouse gets the difference. She would terrify me. He was sentenced to five life sentences without the possibility of parole, three to be served consecutively. So basically being a condescending bitch. Of course what Chris Watts did in murdering his family and especially his children was horrendously wrong. r50 frankly even the kids seemed hard to root for. SHANANN was in high school when LEONARD first met her. And Shanann invites Josh and Cassie to live with them so Josh can get a job with Ace Hardware. If so, nice of him not to say so. Shannon Shanann Rzucek King Watts was a con. I remember there was some anti-Lularore/MLM site that had stories of men divorcing their wives due to MLM debt. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. See home details for 19398 Hathaway Ln and find similar homes for sale now in Warrensville Heights, OH on Trulia. R141 Your boy was fucked with or without the nosy friend. Excellent observation, R228. And Leonard King said the same thing that it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. ACTION TAKEN: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. Shanann Watts Brother Always Worried About Her and the Girls But Couldnt Protect Them, Days Before Murder, Chris Watts' Wife Shanann Was Worried: 'What If He Really Doesn't Love Me Anymore? True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek, Discovery DocumentsEx husbandLeonard King. Ugh time to FF the troll who is obsessed with this sexy murderer. Ill never get tired of speculating about her Munchhausens. LEONARD does not believe that the divorce decree addressed the life insurance policies. Colorado takes moving, and parental alienation, very seriously. Daughter of Private and Private Was he down-playing them because his brain could not process some inner rage about finances? R157, you're right. Shanann met Chris Lee Watts in 2010. Financially she had left him no way out. This gal always lived on the financial edge. She was pretty smart with her lupus act, because, like fibromyalgia, it has broad diagnostic criteria that mostly depends on patient reporting. R135, the timing of the name change seems to perfectly coincide with her fleeing from North Carolina and the Shan'annigens she had been involved in there. And even during the confession, he still doesnt seem to feel bad for the two little girls. She was a malignant narcissist who wrecked havoc when she was questioned. Watts wife was 15 weeks pregnant. But then it was built up with more McMansions pretty quickly, though. R55, Shananns mother signed as a guarantor for their CO home. LEONARD said that people liked SHANANN. Watts' wife was 15 weeks pregnant. Shanann and her two daughters, Bella and Celeste, were reported missing on August 13, 2018 in Frederick, Colorado. But the whole alienating and making people choose. A 12 yo girl took it for one day and felt amazing! As reported by People, "Over the summer, Shanann [Watts . The fact that she had 3 pregnancies when she'd told everyone her Lupus doctor said she'd never have children. Watts. Why the haste to get out of there so quickly? Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? For anyone who hasn't read it here's his CBI interview copied/pasted directly from the Discovery: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. On Feb. 18, over a span of five hours, Watts shared with investigators more disturbing details in how he killed his wife, Shanann, and their two daughters in August 2018. No matter what most people do not resort to killing. I dont know what kind of insurance they had, but wow. Two years to get the diagnosis she wanted. But Good Lord - Cassie and Josh MOVE IN? does Chris slowly pay it back by making license plates? In a video posted online of her 34th birthday celebration, Shananns little girls, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, sang a sweet rendition of Happy Birthday to their mom as Shananns own mother, Sandra Rzucek, joins in via Facetime on Shananns phone. The other thing that made me think he dated her because her nickname implies she has hanann was bitchy and competitive and condescending. What a shame that you cant gawk at a picture of murdered children that r116 thinks they look cuter in. People are not born Coverts Narcissist, they become and it stems from bad parenting. R128 Well, his plans were foiled when her flight was delayed hours, and the friend called 911 early the next day. That can occur when a nerd suddenly becomes hot or he's just a crazy. I think he snapped. I would love to have a conjugal visit Chris Watts! I'll be back. She left her own recorded testimony and out of her own mouth she indictes herself. And thats saying a lot. Anyway, its amazing that theres another chapter to this story; I wonder what the CO investigators could have possibly flown out to Wisconsin to hear, or what Chris could possibly think is big enough to have them come out there for. Im linking the other active DL thread (focused on Chris Watts) below. R220, did you see that house? He was a submissive man, and those kinds are always resentful. Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - Speaking about their relationshiphttps://youtu.be/2MgUoKut3UsLEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive. Jesus. R197, If you watch the videos when she live-streams from the deck, back beyond their house looks like a dump -- literally, the city dump. She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. So Shan'ann's Thrive income was and remains, a mystery. I mean to stay would be commiting to hell. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. Just the fact that she texted a friend, mulling about where to move should they divorce, (but not NC for some reason) tells me she was used to getting her own way. Her high school drama teacher said they called her Shanna ANN. Maybe he didn't want to be full-time parent. And did she legally change it? I'm laughing at Scam'Ann and Sham'Ann. That was also around the time she was diagnosed with lupus. Mortgages became harder to get after the 08 recession. Look up the Anadarko explosion that occurred at battery in Mead, CO, about 20 miles from Cervi 319, the battery Chris Watts buried his wife at, and at which he dumped his daughters bodies into tanks. And furnished it (with tacky shit, oh my goodness that woman liked purple and aqua). in Carthage, NC. I think he was planning to make it look like an accident, that Shanann Wayts came out looking for him, to confront him about his affair maybe. That router article is amazing . I posted earlier extensively about my suspicion that Chris went BALLISTIC about financial stress after getting the mail and seeing the Younique, Le-Vel, etc, charges on ballooning credit cards and then forging (I think) Shanann's signature when she was in NC, on the summons for the lawsuit by the Wyndham Hills HOA. SHANANN was in high school when LEONARD first met her. shit, and Chris made, what around 90,000 a year? Fact: Court documents listed Shanann as a co-owner of Dirty South. I would wager that no gay here appreciates that type of reasoning when it goes against your own practices ( as on forums where it's said, they make that choice, nothing excuses it). Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts Thats bullshit made up by her crazy ass, psycho in-laws the ones that raised a murderer. She talked in one of her videos that Chris accompanied her to a colonoscopy as one of their first dates. Watts, who had initially reported them missing and had made a public plea for their return, was arrested as he admitted to killing them. Has everyone already forgotten the sub prime mortgage explosion of the early 2000s? I feel really sorry for poor Chris, he should not be serving a life sentence! Its my OPINION that people who mess around with their name are waving a red flag. On a waitress/retail managers salary. What a fucking nightmare! shanann watts first marriage shanann watts first marriage (No Ratings Yet) . (not sure if that is accurate). No college degree, working as a manager of a tire/rim shop, builds a gigantic house. She tore through life, grabbing grabbing grabbing, and demanding. They were large policies, $250k or $500k. At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. Made disparaging remarks about the size and decor of others homes and cars. I disagree r147, not with your assertions about how the kids would've ended up, but with Chris taking any of it into consideration. He said they hadn't spoken since they split and he didn't even know her current name. On November 3, 2012, Chris and Shanann got married in the Mecklenberg County of North Carolina. I think if Shan'ann had lived she would have ended up being another Dee Dee Blanchard. The following day, Chris spoke with local media outlets from . She was trying to be cool and ethnic with the new spelling and pronounciation of her name. The reason I halfway believe her is that her description fits exactly a couple I know IRL. And Chris shouldve bolted before, or right after, that ridiculous 2015 BK, where it was largely due to his wifes spending and the fact that she quit her real job. I thought it was very telling of Scam'Ann's personality: SHE, and she alone, will lord over the money; yet, she was such a financial liability that her name wasn't even on the house (and I'm assuming the mortgage.). And, the deceased woman's mother did, as well? R163, I didnt say she was a prostitute; she was scamming, embezzling, laundering money. Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com Even after she moved to CO and was a married mother. I spoke with LEONARD KING ( ) by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. And charged all the furnishings on credit. What are your theories? But judges usually have some discretion in the awarding of child support, which can include maintaining a house for the use of the children. I'm a Frau who loves THRIVE! Thank you Dr. Van De Leek for your enlightament, You have even managed to make it readable and easy to read. I know that being a pain in the ass isn't grounds for death; if it were, I'd have been dead long ago. Shan'ann Watts tells her husband: "I don't want a video of you" while recording her children Chris Watts Case: What would Sherlock Holmes Do? Theres a story there. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? I notice other than no longer wanting to be with him, he had nice things to say about her, she was a hard worker, people liked and were drawn to her and she got along well with them. Divorced and hanging out at da club promoting the rim shop. So does anyone who thinks a guy who murdered his whole family should go free because he's marginally attractive and his murdered wife was annoying. LEONARD knew nothing of SHANANNs current husband, other than what he saw on the news. Maybe I will become Jesus. The description of what he did to those little girls. Shananns worries about her marriage had eaten up her confidence in Chris and their bond together. LEONARD knew that SHANANN first worked with cell phones when he met her. 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