I also have the pearce +1 mag extensions so I can have a full 5 fingered grip on it. People generally lean either toward love or hate when it comes to a Glock. Gen 4 has a bump on the connector to ride inside the slide. Ive shot almost 500 rounds through it so far without a single problem. Both barrels measure 4.48 in. Reading opinions and reviews online can be more frustrating than actually finding a decent gun, and this article is no different. Thats really not necessary. The Gen 4 is 0.17 oz lighter than the Gen 3 (according to Glocks web site). I dont know what Gaston was thinking. Im not the strongest person, but not a wimp either, but I can actually squeeze hard enough to make the grip flex on the Gen 4. This isn't a jab at anyone in particular. Easy to shoot. The dual recoil spring on the Gen 4 weighs in also. To me the trigger feels better. At 5 yards I was able to hit target very well. I was spoiled for too many years with great 1911 triggers. The grip is a little different. Another feature that the Glock Gen 3 guns lack is the modular backstraps. SIG SAUER 230gr V-Crown JHP-850fps, 2.75 And stop comparing it to a damned 9mm, it is not! Overall I found that the G36 was not especially accurate given its intended role. Good luck explaining why you shot a little kid across the street. Im thinking the larger model glocks would help out. The dimensions of the entire trigger housing had to be modified to fit the smaller Glock 19 Gen 4 frame. During all that I also got a degree in law enforcement and went through two different police academies. The pins that hold the ejector, return spring and disconnect got changed a little so that the back straps can be accepted. I also like my Glock 26 which I bought in 1996. The .45 round, be it .45 Colt, .45-70, or .45 ACP, has always been synonymous with American exceptionalism and the spirit of adventure. That's why they make chocolate and vanilla, everybody's different. The trigger bar deactivates the firing pin safety once the trigger is pulled. BTW, I dont get the dreaded mag pinch while shooting just lucky, I guess. Buffalo Bore 255gr +P Outdoorsman875fps, 3.5 So I carry the Glock. In this profile, there is no difference between Glock 19 Gen 3 and Gen 4. The GLOCK 36 presents grip ergonomics of the next dimension. The owner never got Glock Knuckle for him. 1. The gun doesnt feel very secure during this process and forgetting where your pinky is can result in a painful pinch. The smaller trigger housing fits in the smaller Glock 19 4th Generation frame. Josh Wayner is a Michigan native, active competitor, Grand Valley State University alumni, troublemaker, and fiction author. The texturing is different and gives a little different feel. The officers ACP was similar in size and shot rings around the 36 for me. The one really odd thing I found was the thinner frame. But unlike RTF versions with grips that had needle-like checkering, Gen 4 uses flat-cone-like . document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Ive loved shooting since the first time I pulled a trigger at age 8. I bought my Glock 36 in 2001(DTH 194). Customize This * * * * * As with all Glock 19 generations, the Glock 19 Gen 3 and the Glock 19 Gen 4 retain their industry changing striker fire design. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Ihave a Glock 19 Gen 3 and a Gen 4. The one way I know to get rid of it is to alter the frame on your Glocks. Your email address will not be published. Umarex Glock 17 Gen3 vs Gen4. It sounds like the EFK spring system could also fix my malfunction and give the recoil reduction, BUT might not be strong enough when coupled with the piston/dual action function. They were introduced when polymer was still a relatively new material in the gun world and as a result they came out looking strange by comparison to what was standard at the time. GLOCK believes in responsible gun ownership. I took the trigger down to 2.5 lbs. The single-stack magazines of the GLOCK 36 holds six rounds plus one in the chamber. I like the thinner gun profile, thinner grip . 41 Replies to "Glock Gen 3 vs Gen 4" William T.Farrow says: September 10, 2017 at 04:49 . The Gen 4 slide still will not fit the Gen 3 frame. Ive had a G36 since 2012. Just in the event that the worst were to happen an the internal safeties failed, the firing pin would hit nothing but air. It made the pinky pinch and shot-to-shot grip slip disappear. The Glock Generation 3 guns are very basic, in that they give you everything you need and nothing you don't. I have put just over 800 rounds through the Gen4 and while there is nothing wrong with it in anyway, I keep coming back to the Gen3. Notice the duller look of the newer finish for Glock pistols on the Gen 4 pistol. I dont seem to have any of the problems the author mentioned, but I know some other folks do, so I count myself lucky. It starts life out of the box with all the mods I make to my Glock to make it shoot and feel like I want. So I expect the Gen 4 to get even better with use. Install a 3.5 lb. difference at? What you want to do with the gun and what size your hands are are very important to the process. I fired 100 rounds to break it in, and then 400 at a class. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. As a result, I can bring the gun onto target faster than those with more rounded (I.E., double stack) grips. Also, you can't overlook the legendary Glock reliability. On paper the pistol sounds more compact than it is in practice. It also feels like they changed the trigger somewhere in there. You will feel the same 5.5-pound semi-double action trigger pull on both the Glock 19 Gen 3 and the Glock 19 Gen 4. Ergonomics * The new mag release button is larger than the ones found on the previous Glock 19 Gen 3. I got a new part and spring free from Glock. Even if you get a used gun, it's still a Glock. My middle finger under the guard gets rubbed almost raw if I do any significant amount of shooting with my glocks. Perhaps you occasionally operate while wearing tactical gloves. However, if you notice a slightly rougher or heavier trigger pull on your new Gen 4 Glock this is one place to look at making an upgrade. Glock Gen 4 Generation 4 pistols have few changes from the Generation 3 model guns, but have the addition of the Glock Modular Backstrap system. Given proper care and maintenance, either Generation of Glock will serve you well. I find the G36 easier to manage and am able to shoot it better so it is my carry gun. Apologies, southpaws. The last bit was popular, as the RTF2 stipling was made standard across the whole Gen 4 Glock line. I am sure my wife could create such an article installed in a coat if I promise to limit my purchase for forever to just one more vital gun. I can see that you really have great knowledge in terms of guns. You'll have to get out and handle both. The same holster works for the Glock 19 4th Generation pistol. My first time shooting it I went to an indoor range and put my first 8 shots within a 4 diameter at 50. Buffalo Bore 230gr JHP +P-903fps, 3.0 My 7th Glock! Also, I have never heard anyone complain about being shot with a tupperware gun.This gun is realible and accurate in close quarters and I have never pulled the trigger with a chambered round and the gun not fire because of mechanical failure.The 36 is my cc gun and I find it perfect for that.Real people and most creatures on this planet do not get up and save the world after being shot with a .45 except in the movies of course. Thats why they make the thin and easy to carry extra mags. New, that is. That would be another reason to have the versatility of changing the size of the handgrips. The early generations of GLOCK pistols could never be called attractive. There are a few parts when it comes to Glock 19 Gen 4 upgrades that are compatible with the Glock 19 Generation 3. I find thicker glocks print more than the slimline glocks do. Once you get used to the trigger it makes the Shield look like sh**. While the first Gen Glocks weren't broken per se, there were improvements to be made. I just didnt want to rebuild the entire thing, but will sooner or later. I am looking at a model 23, 40. I find it to be very comfortable in my hand, more so than a 1911 or M&P Shield. Again, if GLOCK were to come out and combine the engineering of the G43 and adapt it to the .45 ACP, including addressing the grip length on the G36, they would have a winner. Another PoS Tupperware for glocktards to drool over. I replied, I dont know about you, but Ive never been to a gunfight where I felt like I bought too much ammo. and walked away. Have you noticed reduced recoil, faster follow up shots, etc with your 19? Well, if you already own a Glock Gen 3 and have a favorite holster for it you're in luck. And since Glock stopped at Gen3, the future is limited, too, but Ill still have a place for it in the safe. Glock 19 Magazine. Thats why I bought the Gen 4 as my second Glock. However, the ejector is only available when purchased with the entire trigger housing. I am thinking a glock 17 long slide, concealed in a long coat might be the ticket for winter carry. It depends on what you want. Just hold it as high as you can on the grip. The magazine release is one of the things that may matter to you. I carry it daily. You can get a solid purchase on the weapon without hurting bare skin. As are you. First of all I like guns not brands (same for cars). Longslide models of the large-frame Glock pistols, including the 41 in .45 ACP and Glock 40 in 10mm. And the G36 has the characteristic GLOCK trigger pull thats frequently described as mushy. The significance of the G36 cant be understated. Model: GLOCK 30S Caliber: .45 Auto Magazine capacity: 10 (stock), 9 and 13 available Materials: Stainless steel slide and barrel, polymer frame Weight empty: 22.95 ounces Barrel Length: 3.77 Overall length: 6.96 Sights: Plastic, Dot in a U Action: Striker Fired Finish: Black Price: $545-600 ( $550 via Brownells) RATINGS (out of five stars): Nothing is changed internally or really all that substantially; the gun is pretty much the same except for some surface changes. remain ignorant of the .45GAP and .40SW and you remain having problems! Also, the Gen 4 frame as a larger channel in its bottom to accommodate the new, larger recoil spring assembly. Comparing the Glock Generation 4 to Generation 3 - Gun Reviews by Administrator on June 7, 2011 The Gen 4 (Glock 35 Gen 4 bottom, next to Gen 3 Glock 35, above) has added a new twist to the Glock pistol line. I have run nearly 100,000 rds through this gun. I love teaching firearms and want the good people of the world to be able to defend themselves. With +P ammo, it gives std. The trigger pull got harder and harder until I almost needed 2 fingers to make the gun go off. EDIT. I replied, I dont know about you, but Ive never been to a gunfight where I felt like I brought too much ammo. and walked away. Have fun with it. boilergonzo The first difference between Glock 19 Gen 3 and Gen 4 that many sees are the grips. Its been over 10 years since I bought my 1st gen Glock G36 Slimline because at the time it was the smallest .45ACP I could find. Gaston Glock, who had no prior experience in gun manufacturing, was indeed an innovator. If youre whining about recoil, perhaps a .45 of any brand is not for you. This was the same for GLOCK in the early years. Like virtually all GLOCK pistols, its dependable and will go bang when needed. Shoot both if possible. That makes it prone to moving in the hand under recoil and the lack of grippy grip texture on the sides makes it somewhat hard to control. As all the companies gear up that will change. Now I have about 1500 rounds through it. The traditional three-layer safety Glock safe fire system is still present. You may love the new texture or hate it. All Rights Reserved. Ill be buying more of them. I would gladly let him know about this. But This one does what I bought it for. Gen 4 guns use a "dot" connector instead of the Gen 3 unmarked connector. My other gripe is my pinky get pinched between the bottom of the grip and the mag. But mainly the grip is different because it is a little shorter and then you can add back straps to make it bigger. BTW, everyone in this thread seem to forget about Kahr CM45. It was my winter carry gun in NC, but Im now a FL resident and its just too big a lump to conceal OWB under just a polo or t-shirt. Its really as safe as anything on the market if not safer then some older designs. Detailed review on comparison between Glock Gen 3 and Glock Gen 4 In looking at the Glock 19 Gen 3 vs Gen 4 some parts that were changed stand alone and cannot be interchanged. When you see the larger hole obviously there beneath the barrel, this isn't much of a leap. .easier to wrap my hand around the smaller diameter grip. C. cjcharvet . Youre welcome Jeff. The next of the Glock 19 Gen 4 upgrades to the grip was its texture. The G36 is a very accurate and reliable pistol, and a Great CCW weapon. When debating the Glock Gen 3 vs Gen 4 this is a valid point to consider even if you're not a lefty. Im a Glock guy but rather than the 36 I ended up going with the 30S -terrific pistol and for slimmer times the Shield 2.0. Probably due to the difference in for of the upper part of the grip and new texturing pattern. Despite a single stack magazines, the flat, wide grip and narrow profile make the gun feel akin to a 24 in the hand and it torques under recoil as a result. It feels smoother and lighter to me. It is comfortable to shoot and its ugly. They make clothes and shoes in different sizes for different people and there's no shame in that. Unless you're a police officer, you can't buy one! But Shield is still heavier by those 5 grams. Just like the gun better. The advantages the Gen 4 has over the 3 is the thinner grip to start and then you can add size, bigger and changeable mag release, and more texture on the grip. If you get a Gen 3, you can generally find them for cheaper (make sure its more then the price of the extra magazine). The dealer gets it for a special price and the guns are marked and can only be sold as Blue Label guns. Myself being a first time buyer, which gen 3 would be good to defend your family as well as protect yourself? Oh, by the way, do make sure the weapon is cleared before doing this, you do not want to become a statistic. The adjustable grip size would be a benefit if you had smaller hands or maybe average hands with short, stubby fingers. Why the difference in the two models, and where is the .08 in. Just bought a Gen 4..like it! Right now they are still on Glocks web site. So that I broke both of them wasnt that big of a surprise to anyone. YOu CAN take a GEn 3 upper and put it on a Gen 4 frame. But there are a bunch of small gun smiths that can easily take care of it for you. Now have a Shield 2.0 45, like it better. I called Glock and they sent a new recoil spring. The flattened pancake look of the gun and the off-putting differences in surface texture wont turn any heads. The problems are from limp-dicking it. The G26 offered a shorter handle with a two finger grip. A lot of people that customize the Gen 3 put an extended magazine release on their guns, so Glock just did it for them. I have been shooting regularly for just a few years. This is one of the features that moved Glock to the head of the pack. Ive never liked, or gotten used to, a Glock trigger. In order to find out when your particular gun was made, you had to do a search on its serial number. This Product can expose you to chemicals including lead, which is known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. The longer pins will work but stick out a little to far. No more problems since. Over the decades the Glock handgun has evolved with some changes being subtle, while others are instantly recognizable. I walked in the place with two knives and a .45. Now that they have the G43X and G48, they may be able to adapt it to 40, which I would prefer to a 36. Or could it be the 9mm Luger round was developed in Europe where .45 ACP is a homegrown American round? Welcome to Glock Knuckle. I agree with you Jeff i have three mags. The accuracy is typical of glock (Its good) As accurate as any of my other Glock pistols. In knowing which generation of Glock you have you can narrow down when it was made or at least when Glock started making them. Cool Mike! Share Compare Wishlist Warning WARNING ADVERTENCIA Technical Data Caliber .45 Auto This means that not only with the Gen 4 not only shoot easier, but it will last longer too. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Agree. Your armchair sociology may have merit, but I suspect more prosaic motives are at work. His varied interests and hobbies include camping, fishing, hunting, and spending time at the gun range as often as possible. 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